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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 12:44pm | IP Logged Quote Martin Dillon

Have you checked this out!

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/eveningchronicle/eveningc hronicle/tm_objectid=15275006%26method=full%26siteid=50081%2 6headline=shark%2dfear%2dafter%2ddevastation%2dto%2dmarine%2 dlife-name_page.html

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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 4:30pm | IP Logged Quote Andy Freeman

There seems to be a lot of it about. Best keep it quiet in case the Boss gets wind and finds out im not covered for "eaten by animals" on the life policy.

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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 4:33pm | IP Logged Quote Phil Jerry

But andy if she finds out it is on the policy will you then be encouraged to go ssailing more?
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Probably, not to mention pushing me to take up Lion taming..

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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 6:49pm | IP Logged Quote Gavin Duthie

What do the mean by the NE coast ?

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Bathers warned of shark risk -- off British coast



LONDON (AFP) - The chilly waters off northeastern England are rarely that inviting for bathers, but at least those who do venture in for a dip have been able to do so in the knowledge they are safe from sharks.

Until now, that is.

In a virtually unprecedented warning, British maritime agencies warned surfers, divers and others thinking of braving the North Sea to be on the alert for a possible shortfin mako shark.

The discovery of a series of dead porpoises washed up onto beaches in northeast England, some with large chunks apparently bitten out of them, has prompted the warning, the Daily Mail newspaper reported on Wednesday.

Around 45 porpoises have been found along with the headless bodies of seals and remains of other large fish.

Experts say this points to the presence of a large mako shark nearby. The shark, which grows up to 12 feet (3.65 metres) in length, is known to be found in the North Sea but rarely ventures near shore.

It is thought that conservation efforts off northeast England which have greatly increased the local porpoise population might have attracted a shark, the paper said.

"We would advise all those using the water, including surfers, fishermen and divers, to be especially careful and vigilant," the Maritime and Coastguard agency said in a statement.

"There have been no reported sightings of this shark yet, but we cannot rule out the possibility that one might be out there."

Some of the porpoise bodies have been sent to London's Natural History Museum so the cause of death can be determined, the paper added.




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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 8:24pm | IP Logged Quote alastair mclean

 "just when martin moves from lake to sea",but i bet you wont take any sh"t from no big fish! and with that award you got at the agm came the  small print about been the wind monkey[bait].  what weapons will you have in your your bum bag ?  i will opt for the big air bottle!

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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 10:23pm | IP Logged Quote Andy Freeman

There is a vacant position. Shark bait!!!!

So, next time someone says "after you chum" before hitting the water its probably quite literal.



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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 9:08am | IP Logged Quote Phil Jerry

I put this up on the boards forum but seeing as not everyone reads it ill repeat it here.  this is taken from a marine survey website

 

September 1998

Two huge Porbeagle Sharks, Lamna nasus, were caught from two Sunderland based salmon fishing boats. Very large sharks are caught every three to four years. The first shark was estimated to weigh 190 kg (420 lb), and the second a massive (unbelievable) 363 kg (800 lb). The British and World angling record is 230 kg (507 lb). Angling Records Link Page. The British record for the Mako Shark, Isurus oxyrinchus, is about the same, although the world records for this shark stands at 506 kg. The seas around Coquet Island (near Amble) are a regular haunt of Porbeagles if they are present. In August, two Porbeagles were caught in the sea off the Tyne, an event that occurs every year, and in late September, one measuring 2.3 metres long was landed at Hartlepool. (Records not checked for duplication).

These could be Mako Sharks?

13 & 14 August 2021

Two Shortfin Mako Sharks, Isurus oxyrinchus, (one about 5 metres and the other larger) were caught in salmon nets about 3 miles SE of Whitby, North Yorkshire. (One of sharks had 3 Lampreys Petromyzon marinus embedded in it.) (National Marine Aquarium, Plymouth, Rare Fish Records) The fisherman who caught the fish was positive that these sharks were not Porbeagles and commented on the striking white belly and triangular teeth. One of about 5 metres (14 ft) was captured in a monofilament salmon net. The following day a similar but apparently larger shark was seen to go through the net.

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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 9:17am | IP Logged Quote Gavin Duthie

Jeez - I also ended up watching a program on Zambezi Shark attacks on surfers in S Africa last night.

AAAAAAAAAAARGH !!

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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 11:42am | IP Logged Quote Tony Champion

Now there is an incentive to improve your waterstarting.
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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 12:51pm | IP Logged Quote Ian Rienewerf

Look North interviewed a marine type expert who favoured the porbeagle shark theory saying it is normal to have them in the area, and there has never been any history of shark attacks on humans off the North East coast. It's business as usual as far as the boffins are concerned.

There maybe more chance of being struck by lightning than being chewed by a shark.

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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 1:55pm | IP Logged Quote Martin Dillon

To back up that theory I found this on the web

Porbeagles are pan-oceanic, having been reported in the North Atlantic, the North Sea, off England, Scotland, Iceland, Newfoundland, New England, and from corresponding latitudes in the southern hemisphere. All the porbeagles can be characterized as temperate or even coldwater species. This is one of the reasons that there have been no documented attacks on swimmers; even though the porbeagle is certainly capable, there are just not very many people in the waters where the porbeagle lives.

The reproduction and parurition of the porbeagle is thought to be similar to that of the mako.

Given its illustrious relatives, it is no wonder that the porbeagle has been given short shrift. The shark with the funny name has not been incriminated in unprovoked attacks on humane and it does not perform elaborate high jinks when it is hooked. It may appear to be the poor relation of the more flamboyant mackerel sharks, but it is a full member of the family, a swift and capable hunter. The porbeagle is not as deadly as the white or as graceful as the mako, but it is among the fastest swimmers in the sea, and therefore it ranks at the very peak of the food chain. It is the "top predator" in its own territory.

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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 9:09pm | IP Logged Quote steve boyd

No wonder Adrian goes out for miles before gybing. I think he waits until he is in the English channel, so no problem with mackos. Just the odd great white.........

Its simple just dont drop your gybes!

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Posted: 10 March 2005 at 10:13pm | IP Logged Quote Andy Freeman

The only problem with that is these bloody things can swin in excess of 60kph.

Not to worry though, i hear they are frightened of big yellow helicopters



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Posted: 11 March 2005 at 10:49am | IP Logged Quote Gavin Duthie

SHORT-FINNED MAKO SHARK
Isurus oxyrinchus





GENERAL DESCRIPTION
Makos are mackerel sharks that are incredibly fast swimmers and can also leap out of the water. They are sought after game fish. Mako is a Maori word.

The short-finned Mako shark (Isurus oxyrinchus) has a conical snout, and long gill slits. It is pelagic but occasionally goes inshore. It is dark gray-blue on top and white on its belly. It is also known as the bonito and the blue pointer.

SIZE
Short-finned Makos average 5-8 feet (1.5-2.5 m) long but can reach 12 feet (3.7 m) long, about weighing 1,000 pounds (450 kg).

HABITAT AND DISTRIBUTION
Short-finned Makos are found world-wide in temperate and tropical seas. Makos range from the surface to relatively deep waters. They are pelagic oceanic swimmers, but are occasionally found inshore. In warm, tropical oceans, they swim deep below the surface as they prefer cool water (about 65°F (18.5°C)). They are found off the island of Tahiti at depths of 650-1,300 feet (200-400 m).

DIET AND FEEDING HABITS
Makos eat schooling fish, including tuna, herring, mackerel, swordfish, and porpoise. They are opportunistic feeders, eating just about anything.

TEETH
The Mako's teeth are long, thin, and sharp. This enables the shark to catch slippery fish, the mainstay of its diet.

Sharks teeth are located in rows which rotate into use as needed. The first two rows are used in obtaining prey, the other rows rotate into place as they are needed. As teeth are lost, broken, or worn down, they are replaced by new teeth that rotate into place.

MAKO SHARK ATTACKS
The Mako is considered dangerous and there have been attacks on people.

SPEED
Mako sharks are the fastest swimming sharks and can even leap out of the water. They are also probably among the fastest fish. Estimates of their speed varies; some say that they can swim at about 60 miles per hour (97 kph), while more conservative estimates are about 22 mph (35 kph). There hasn't been enough experimentation on their speeds to have an definitive answer.

REPRODUCTION

Makos reproduce via aplacental viviparity. The pups are cannibalistic in the womb. On average, 10 -12 pups are born in each litter and are about 2 feet (0.6 m) long at birth.

MIGRATION
The short-finned Mako migrates about 1550 miles (2500 km) seasonally. MAKO SHARK CLASSIFICATION
Kingdom Animalia (animals)
Phylum Chordata
SubPhylum Vertebrata (vertebrates)
Class Chondrichthyes (cartilaginous fish)
Subclass Elasmobranchii (sharks and rays)
Order Lamniformes
Family Lamnidae
Genus Isurus
Species
oxyrinchus - the shortfin mako (also known as the bonito and the blue pointer)
paucus - the longfin mako


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Posted: 11 March 2005 at 11:06am | IP Logged Quote stevecarragher

Thanks Gavin. I had in my mind little friendly reef sharks, now I'm thinking Jaws! Anyone up for a game of chess this afternoon?
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Geordie Jaws, weren't they featured in the once rfunny Viz magazine?

The Pathetic Sharks

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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 3:28pm | IP Logged Quote Ross

More on this:

THOUSANDS OF BATHERS MAY POTENTIALLY DIE OFF HARTLEPOOL, AUSSIE SHARK EXPERT WARNS

NEWCASTLE, March 17
AUSTRALIA'S leading shark expert, Dic Hitslop, issued a stark warning yesterday to holidaymarkers in the wake of continued shark attack fears along the coast of Tyne & Wear.

Hitslop's remarks are set to cast a dark shadow over the future of England's North Sea resorts, long enjoyed as summer family retreats. But now, according to the Queensland specialist, they represent "a certain graveyard for thousands of Geordies who dare to swim there".

According to Hitslop - who leads a world-acclaimed research facilty in Queensland, the 'Supposed Record Shark Show' - the waters off Northeast England are replete with "killer sharks of every imaginable variety, all hell-bent on maiming or killing family-loving marine mammals such as seals and porpoises." Speaking at a hastily-convened press conference in Newcastle, he outlined results of his study of recent shark attacks to local porpoises - and astounded journalists with terrifying scientific predictions for future swimmer safety.

"What we have here is a classic rogue shark situation," said Hitslop. "My conservative estimate is that at least thirty different sharks are responsible, mostly white pointers and tiger sharks, but perhaps some bulls too." The white pointer - or great white shark - kills at least 17,000 bathers a year worldwide, according to the Hervey Bay expert, but he stressed this was "defo an underestimate." The great white, he suggested, is a "….pressing example of why CITES should be disbanded; shark conservationists jailed, and these lethal animals subjected to systematic culling by marine special forces wherever they occur."

Questioned on the recent porpoise and seal strandings along the northeast coast, Hitslop said the evidence he had amassed was "as clear-cut as modern science can assess."

"The attacking sharks are probably over six metres (20ft) long in these cases. And make no mistake - that's just a juvenile pointer," he warned.

"Some seals have had their heads bitten off and this is a clear terrorist tactic, imported from Iraqi insurgents, and now being employed to scare humans from entering the sea," he added. "We can't let them win this battle of wits. Women, children and windsurfers will be savaged by the score - just like the cuddly porpoises. Think of your family. Think of the horror."

Hitslop says he has won backing from both the local council and British National Party to install sizeable nets stretching along the coast from Scarborough northwards to Berwick. The idea, he explained, is to "trap and kill every shark coming close to the shore - whether they're pointers, tigers or dogfish, they're all killers and times of war require robust measures."

"Sure, some dolphins, windsurfers or seals may get trapped and also die. But collateral damage is a risk we need to accept."

He also intends to patrol the shoreline in an adapted armour-plated skiboat, fitted with explosive-tipped harpoons and a GPS-based targeting system that will "enable RAF Tornado ground attack aircraft from Lincolnshire to cluster-bomb any sharks spotted at the surface, upon my communication with the defence authorities."

Marine biologists from the government's fisheries agency CEFAS in Lowestoft responded to Hitslop's remarks with "bemusement and no small degree of alarm." Their spokesman declined to be drawn on speculation, recently highlighted in his native Australia, concerning Hitslop's mental state; noting only that "the chap is much more likely to be torn limb-from-limb if he enters any Newcastle pubs in the wake of a football match, dressed in his strange shorts, sandals and necklaces and adorned with that moustache echoing from the Village People era."


Actually, seriously, there is a good thread on this in the shark trust message forum, see http://www.sharktrust.org/cgi/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=372&w; hichpage=3
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You should have saved this for 1st April



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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 8:57am | IP Logged Quote Gavin Duthie

After seeing what Hartlepoolians do to monkeys, I suspect the sharks don't stand a chance.

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Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:55am | IP Logged Quote Gavin Duthie

Latest report in The Journal would now suggest that after tests have been done on the ravaged bodies of the washed up Porpoises, it's probably fishermans nets that caused the injuries combined with seagulls and others creatures picking at the floating carcasses.

......... possibly the longest April fool in history ?

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Guys whats the problem, out here we have great whites to go sailing with and if your on the river its bull sharks. Only 2 weeks ago some was taken by a great white from his boat not to far from here. 3 years ago one bloke was eaten at our local windsurfing spot. We just avoid sailing around dawn and dusk.
If you decide to go inland and use the lakes you have the sea snakes. But fortunatly the jelly fish dont sting.

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Makes you miss the good old North East. Sailing here you just have to worry about the bears breaking into your car for your lunch. Nothing in the water though, thank God.

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